Hi Lileigh,

Came upon your website by chance surfing for Genesis you tube videos.
I like your analysis of what genesis had done with their re-issue. 
I hold out hope that one day they may give us closure and do a final world tour. 
Even if they don't tour I would fly to England to see them bring it to a close. 

In 1978-1979 I saw Genesis in 
Fort Lauderdale for the 
And then There Were Three tour. 

Genesis did have a stage setup like none I have ever seen. I have read there is very little video of this tour. 
The stage set had 6 or 8 hexagonal mirrors which pivoted on 2 axis above the group. Lasers were fired at the mirrors. 
I have seen other you tube clips of the concert, most of limited video and audio quality but none with this stage set. 
Is there any good footage that you know which shows this concert as I saw it? 
I have some very good 35mm pictures of the concert but no video, I don't think they do it justice.

Thank You,

Rick


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Hi, Rick ~

Yours is a very perplexing question..in that the "And Then There Were Three" tour  fell into a time when Genesis (by then, Banks, Collins and Rutherford) could certainly have afforded some filming to be done of their always-spectacular, ever-escalating Showco staging - with them playing underneath it. And, yet, they seem to have not...at least for lengthy, commercial release.
I, too, saw that tour...just not sure if it was the same leg as you all had down in Florida (I was in upstate NY, at the time).  But, your excellent, visual description jogs a very old memory of mine - of the hexagonal mirrors, lasers bouncing off of them - I'm sure of it!
**(For those unfamiliar with what Rick & I remember - my collector friend and collaborator Paul Davis, from the UK, has kindly sent me a shot of the foldout from the programme from the "And Then There Were Three" Tour, for all to see!  Look above to see that snapshot. Thank you, Paul!)

I, myself, am not aware of any video of that specific time period, unfortunately.

I will send out some feelers to my collector friends...but, all the internet searches I've been doing on the question - are also coming up blank.  ;-(
Problem, back then, was that video and film cameras were pretty bulky...and if you were CAUGHT trying to sneak in one of those big honkers, you would certainly have been tossed out of the venue, with the offending piece of electronic equipment following you (onto the hard pavement).
No, it would have needed to have been a fully-cleared, professionally-filmed production - for it to have been preserved for the group's posterity (and, knowing Tony's distinct policy on not releasing any Genesis product which doesn't meet his strict standards, it is unlikely to see the light of day - IF it exists within The Farm's coffers). 

I'm so sorry to not be a bearer of better news...but, who knows, if we post this interchange  for all to see - our combined luck may turn and someone might come forward with more concrete knowledge of this new Quest of ours!  :-)

Meanwhile, I'm not the only one to have my curiosity piqued about those marvelous 35mm still photographs you spoke of personally snapping, during the tour!  Would LOVE to see them!

All my thanks for your supportive communiques, 
Xoxo, Lil

Hi, Lileigh,
I cannot hardly believe that I have not heard of you or this site before. 
I'm in the AF, been flying for some really long time, lets say. 
I have used Genesis, Gabriel, Hackett, etc as the soundtrack for my life since college in the early 80. I can't fly a helo, but I have both rappelled and skydived out of some:
(Flying big airplanes, C-5, C-17, KC-135 for the AF) 
Anyway, the analysis of the engineering of Genesis is remarkable. 
It also validates in my own head why some of the later live-stuff didn't "pop" with me as much.....like three sides live. 
The first Genesis concert I saw was in the Oakland Coliseum for the ...And Then There were Three tour, (yeah, I know). 
I was 16 or seventeen. 
Through college I must have seen Genesis, Gabriel, and Hackett in their various tours about twenty times. 
Good times. Hackett even stared at my date for a good portion of one concert.....I listen to them every week at least in some form......I have been so often accused of over thinking my listening to music... and here you are taking it to nigh a fine art. Vivat.      Best;  Dave
LiLeigh, in 2000, after earning her Comm'l
FAA Rotorcraft Rating...it was 105-degrees in AZ,
that day (no a/c in the cockpit) - hence the shorts!


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Hi, Dave!

I'm trying my best to get out all my communiques before Turkey-Gobble Day hits...so, I'm hoping this one finds you and your family reunited for a good communal feast - especially since you are a career serviceman?

God bless you, sir, for serving our country...in such a lengthy term of service.

I'm so very pleased that my videos and website have tickled your musical fancy...as well as your (our) fine memories of all those Genesis/Gabriel/Hackett tours of the 80's and 90's!

Yes, I think also music plays an important role in our lives (or at least, the training portion) as pilots.

Of course, I have nothing on your career, in the cockpit...but, when I was first learning to hover (in the trainer R22 I had no choice to use to learn to fly, get my first Rotorcraft rating) - it was Gabriel's "Mercy Street" which allowed me to overcome the (very common) urge to "over control" the cyclic.

My CFI suggested (after I had experienced the typical "very frustrating" initial hour of attempted stable hovering) that I go home and find a piece of music which featured a steady, hypnotic beat - and listen to it consistently until I came back the next day, to try again.

Gabriel's "So" happened to be in the car's CD system...and I forwarded through it until I came upon "Mercy Street"..and voila! 
;-)

I got back in the cockpit, the next day, lifted off...and was steady as a rock (with "Looking down on Mercy Street, all she can see...", reverberating in my brain).

I'm sure that most all of us have some sort of similar stories about when their music came into play, during the more challenging times, in our lives.

To me, that is what Music, in general, does for the us, as human beings.

As cliche'd as it sounds: Music helps us to connect with each other, in a very intimate way...and helps us to make it through what we all face, on a daily basis.

The wonderful feedback generated via this website, my videos and my attending of all the Gabriel, Hackett and TMB concerts - within the past 3 years and connecting with so many fellow lovers of the music of early-Genesis/Gabriel-solo - underscores this.

I'm so grateful to include you (and all my other Entangled, Genesis-loving friends, who have written me, here) in this superlative fellowship known as "The Faithful".  *grin*


Have a safe and warm Holiday season...and, beyond!

All my best to you,
Lil

Dear LileighWhite,

I just had the idea, that it would be nice to listen to some LLDOBW-songs. 
Don´t know why, it was just a flash in my mind. 

After looking for Lilywhite Lilith on youtube, I found your work and later on your website.    Extraordinary! 
Thanks a lot!! 
Especially because I´m a Genesis-fan too from the age of 16 when I saw them on Peter´s last tour with the group in Düsseldorf, Germany. 

That was my first "real great" concert and I´ll never forget it! 

A year later, I saw the group again with Phil Collins then singing and drumming and Bill Bruford on drums, too. 
Quite good, but not the amazing show that I saw 12 months ago.

Bruford was the way to King Crimson, another of my favourite 70´s groups. 
Not that I totally stucked in the Prog-Rock-Scene until now on, but it had a great impact on my musical life.

Isn´t it funny, that the genesis-songs from that period are quite undeletable from my inner hard-disk - and it´s 40 years later now and the words are still there, even if I´m not a native speaker.

It´s a pleasure to listen to your explanations, your "that´s what he probably meant with that line"-statements. 
Howard Hughes in blue suede shoes? Sound´s nice - and is there a hint maybe hidden in Orson Welles Citizen Cane, 
which I´ve never discovered? A Rosebud...?

Anyway: You´re a rael and a real fan and I appreciate that a lot!

Wish you good luck over the ocean wherever you are and maybe you´ll send me an answer. ;-)

Yours,
Michael 

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Grube aus Arizona nach Dusseldorf, mein neuer Freund, Michael !

Wow...you bring up so many delectable images of the rarest of early-Genesis concerts, with your written memories, Michael.

I mean, other than the 1972/73 Roxy,  Rainbow Theatre and Drury Lane concerts...I would have absolutely given my eye teeth to see Peter's final Lamb concerts, in Europe (where Steve's surgically-reattached left thumb tendon was finally healing up enough for him to REALLY let loose and play "Fly", etc.)...and, then, Bruford stepping into Phil's drumming shoes during the earliest leg(s) of the Trick of The Tail Tour. 

(I, too, followed Bruford right into the re-created King Crimson, with Adrian Belew and Tony Levin joining "Professor" Fripp for "Discpline", et al.   And, I GOT to see them perform, live, in 1981..thank heavens!  Purchased my single ticket..and drove myself up to Syracuse, NY - only to find I was about the only "non-girlfriend" female fan in the audience, that night !  LOLOL) 

Well...Marvelous, my friend....simply marvelous !

I must admit that I adore the way you expressed the way we all feel about this very beguiling music, of early Genesis, en masse:  "the songs from that period are quite undeletable from my inner hard-disk - and it´s 40 years later now and the words are still there".

A better, more descriptive way of putting it - I have rarely come upon!

It's like it is wrapped into the double-helix of our music-enjoying DNA strands....so pervasive is the early work of Genesis.

I was recently fortunate enough to travel along with Steve Hackett's Genesis:Revisited 2 Tour (to film and document it, while they visited the States)....and, I think that even HE was surprised how EXUBERANT the audiences were, in their appreciative reactions to each and every song he presented.
It was almost as if everyone there, each night, had HELD his (or her) breath for 40 years, waiting for this tremendously beloved music to be performed Live, in its entirety, again....and at the hearing of the first opening phrases of all these songs (which, as you say, undeletable from our collective hard-drives) all would BURST out, releasing that long-held, anticipatory breath-  in joy and utter bliss!

Never have I seen anything like it before....nor, am I like to ever see anything like it, again, in my lifetime.

I do so hope that you have (and everyone else, in Europe, the UK..and elsewhere) been able to see at least ONE of these GR2 Tour concerts...they really are quite wonderful.

And, Steve is still in TOP Form!  (God bless 'im ;-)

If you (or anyone else you know, who also loves early-Genesis) can't get to see GR2 concert, live...then, may I suggest ordering a DVD copy of his Genesis:Revisited 2 concert at the Hammersmith Odean, via his website:  Hackettsongs.com .

It is well-worth the investment, I assure you!


Frohe Feiertage zu ihnen und ihrer Familie, lieber Michael.
Alle meine besten Wunsche fur Sie..


Lil (Leigh)

Hey Lil,

Just a quick line to say a heartfelt and sincere thank you for your wonderful and highly insightful analysis of Genesis.

I stumbled across your YT channel purely by chance after seeing a random post of the Lamb on G+, and oh boy, am I glad I did!

In recent terminology, I guess I could be described as an "Indigo child", or "Indigo mature adult" in my case! Lol


I tell you this because as soon as I saw and heard you, I was captivated, drawn in and completely connected.

Your spirituality shines like a beacon, and I adore the way your appreciation of this eternally beautiful music is written all over your lovely face.
I could listen to your commentary all day, not least because your reviews are extremely accurate, but also because I happen to agree with every word you say! Ha ha

How serendipitous to virtually meet such a beautiful, sensitive and intelligent woman such as yourself.

I feel blessed being a lifelong Genesis fan, and now discovering someone who deeply understands their muse with the same passion and enthusiasm, is absolutely heart warming.

I do hope that you continue to spread the Genesis 'gospel' this way, and I thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing your knowledge and acute awareness with everyone.

Thank you again Lil from your latest "guaranteed eternal" subscriber!

Namaste,

Phil

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Namaste, Phil...I "see the Light which resides within you", as well ;-)

How much more lovely (and loving) could a message get...I ask you?  *brilliant smile*

Thank you, thank you, my friend.

One rarely knows, these days, what kind of reaction one will get when one personally-crafts something very intimate  (to our collective early-Genesis loving souls) ...and send it out, into the ether, like a Night Sky Lantern (see above pic)

But, when you start looking into the same dark sky...and see HUNDREDS of fellow Genesis/Gabriel-loving Lanterns (Peter's so-named Golden Globes, perhaps?) also floating along with yours, you can't help but feel good.

I'm so very pleased you wrote you me, Phil....what you wrote and when you wrote it also matters a great deal to me, as you likely now know.


Serendipitous?  Perhaps.
But, somehow...I think not so much, as it is Kismet.

And, now it's time to  thank you from the bottom of my heart.

May we all be Entangled in the same dream (of a Genesis Reunion, somehow, someday), tonight!

All my love and Guaranteed Eternal gratitude, 

Lil (Leigh)

Hi, Lileigh, 
An old friend of mine sent a youtube link about your analysis of the Mellotron. 
Thanks a ton, as i don't think I will get any sleep. 
I will watch ALL of your videos. 

Saturday, I saw the Musical Box in Toronto at our historic Massey Hall. 
It was almost 40 years ago exactly, that Genesis did SEBTP on the same stage. 
Thank you for your enthusiasm for the band I cherish more than any other! 
( well, Maybe ELP is close)

All the best, Tom

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Hellay, Tom !

So sorry for the excuse to lose even more sleep (than you are likely getting, already, like all of us ;-) - but, so very pleased you enjoyed my very heartfelt feature on the mighty Mellotron!
Have you, by chance, found my Analysis: BankSynths Vintage Instrument Tour video - with Sound of Contact's keyboardist Dave Kerzner and my collaborator Tom Lord-Alge discussing The Lamb's use of the early BankSynths stuff?


It was such a GREAT time filming them, as they talked (like little kids in a candy shop, I swear!  LOL), surrounded by all of the vintage keyboards that Tony Banks used during the Lamb era.  It was a GAS!    *hearty chuckle, recalling the memory*


As for The Musical Box 's SEBTP Tour - please look above to see the picture that TLA snapped, the other night, in NYC - at the end of Supper's Ready: New Jerusalem.  LOVE THAT BLACKLIGHT MAKE-UP, Denis Gagne !!!!!!  8-D


I have no doubt from your enthusiastic e-comment, you had just as good a time seeing the show as Tom and his brother Jeff did!
(I get to see TMB, in Los Angeles, after the New Year - when CalProg brings them out west - to spread their early-Genesis, black-lit magic.  Yippeeeee!!!)


Thank you again, for matching our passion...it's great to have your esteemed company (and support).


Love,  Lil

Thanks for you contributions to keeping their music alive.

I too have been a Genesis fan since 15 (1972). 
Being the keyboard player for a fledgling prog rock band in Sarnia, Ontario called Theater of Life (great name don't you think) and having been a Rick Wakeman fan I began to tire of his movement to be more technically driven rather than melody driven. 

I purchased the Foxtrot LP and was hooked on Banks dedication to the song rather than the technique.
My foundest memory was attending the 1976 Trick of the Tail show in London, Ontario on March 26, 76, their first live appearance with Mr. Collins on lead vocals and my first time seeing Genesis. 
It started a bit slow, Mr. Collins visibly nervous but quickly became, as they always were, a tight melodic increadable sound. 

I have seen Genesis in all of their incarnations (except with Mr. Gabriel) 6 times in total, Mr. Gabriel solo 4 times but have the foundest memory of the London ,Ontario show. 
It was intimate, only a couple of hundred attending. and their interaction with us more seemed more genuine. 

They appeared to be moved with our reaction and thankful for it. Thanks again for keeping these memories alive.

Paul


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What a superlative set of memories you have had with Genesis...and Peter Gabriel (solo)...as both a fellow musician and a genuine, appreciative fan, dear Paul!
Thank you so very much for sharing this unusual memory of Phil's first, tentative outing as their lead singer and frontman.
It serves us all well, I think, to go back in our minds to a time before he was Mr. Phil Collins, international start of stage and screen (and Motown Hit remakes).
I have always had great respect for Phil...not only in his pure vocals - but, his magnificently complex drumming.


I've read how he is a consummate musician - in that he play nearly every type of instrument he picks up...and his ability to sew different compositions together, through clever transitional arrangements, set him apart.


He was a workaholic who gave freely of his time and talents when his friends needed top-notch drumming to be recorded for their solo albums & asked for no pay  (just ask Peter)..and, if there had later been sour grapes or bad feeling on anyone's part - it usually would be Phil who played the mediator or mood-lightener.


So many folks these day forget how far-reaching his musical depth truly is...and merely assign him the more shallow Pop Star persona he later became.


In that, I am very sad to slowly learn that he became a very depressed individual, later in life...and, perhaps understandably bitter as to how everything panned out, for him.


But, at least he has his newly-published book on his years-long obsession "The Alamo" to find joy in !


All my best..and sincere thanks,


Xoxo, Lil